Zeus
ONI Director | Spartan E146
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Fixed it, my apologies“Agent Lee”
Still Hallow, lmfao. Not trying to bring back my dead religious pyromaniac character.
Fixed it, my apologies“Agent Lee”
Still Hallow, lmfao. Not trying to bring back my dead religious pyromaniac character.
Firstly i said that if that did happen then they would be S2K, secondly i never stated ONI would be S2K, i said if zeus was the offender then he would be, regardless of the monitors decision as the protocols of the forerunner override your authority to my knowledge, that is not to say i wouldn't follow them, but simply being the leader doesn't levy much ground against the core protocols we have to follow.ONI are not S2K nor the EMP thing was a false thing (Which was not by Zeus that was way back then when Delta was in power) Come to me if you want to suggest it but your not the leader of the sentinels or Forerunners I AM
Thought this was ONI Classified.... guess I'm being PKed IRL now :/Also, Zeus, why aren't Prowler allowed in ONI base?, they are an ONI division and lore-wise have been found in ONI facilities, i understand certain areas they wouldn't be allowed into, but why not just the outside bit or the reception area in ONI base. The only reason i ask this is something i found via the wiki:
Intra-ONI dynamics are often strained with intense competition among its own personnel. Agents operate under heavy scrutiny with mistakes often lead to demotion or death.
Known ONI Branches
- ONI Section Zero - Internal Affairs and investigations
- ONI Section One - Military Intelligence
- ONI Section Two - Propaganda and Information
- ONI Section Three - Special Projects
- UNSC Prowler Corps
- ONI Signal Corps
- ONI Retrieval and Acquistions
- Reverse Engineering and Prototyping - Xenotechnology
- Department of Colonial Security
Also, Zeus, why aren't Prowler allowed in ONI base?, they are an ONI division and lore-wise have been found in ONI facilities, i understand certain areas they wouldn't be allowed into, but why not just the outside bit or the reception area in ONI base. The only reason i ask this is something i found via the wiki:
Intra-ONI dynamics are often strained with intense competition among its own personnel. Agents operate under heavy scrutiny with mistakes often lead to demotion or death.
Known ONI Branches
- ONI Section Zero - Internal Affairs and investigations
- ONI Section One - Military Intelligence
- ONI Section Two - Propaganda and Information
- ONI Section Three - Special Projects
- UNSC Prowler Corps
- ONI Signal Corps
- ONI Retrieval and Acquistions
- Reverse Engineering and Prototyping - Xenotechnology
- Department of Colonial Security
Good Evening Ponk
a. All the official ONI PK contracts that have been complete have been approved by me before they were carried out and I will stand by my staff and every last PK that has been completed under my watch. If there is a PK that is unreasonable I implore you to tell me which one and I can explain why they resulted in a PK.
b. In regards to the “edgy” issue that is a topic that you would have to take up with the manager because that had nothing to do with ONI in the slightest.
I hope this helps to answer all your questions.
Office of Naval Intelligence
Director
E146 Zeus
From a neutralist perspective i read this from the poll;
Zeus, 57.1% of the people so far have an issue with how you run things, now whether this is by your hand or on the sly by your members is inconsequential, at the end of the day and much like Montana, you are liable for the actions of your section as i'm sure you are well aware.
So, i digress.
The most common slanders and associations with you are as follows:
1. Zeus is a PK machine
2. Certain ONI members swing their dicks about and run amok without a stopper
3. the general view from what i have heard from a variety of players is that people would like to GLASS Oni HQ and all its occupants
The few things i have heard done well are:
1. Some of Oni are generally quite nice and don't have an itchy PK trigger-finger
2. A considerable amount of the stuff you do is a necessary evil, if people complain that is to some extent irrelevant as some of things you do are for 'the greater good' as so to speak.
Now i move onto the proverbial elephant in the room which is the topic of PK's...., now while PK's are an occurence on the server and rightfully so, i think there needs to be a valve on just how many there should be, i understand that if people wander into ONI or other areas they shouldn't, it's justifiable, however, i have had and witnessed A LOT of complaints in terms of PK's and to be brutally honest, you are at the top of the list Zeus.
Now, i use the most OP class on the server(heavy sentinel), and it comes with the full monty of PK weapons, all 3 to be exact, but there is a difference between having them and knowing when to use them.
for example, from what i heard from other players, previous sentinels had been quite dickish about how they functioned, essentially floating around and murdering everything, so what i did was this...i had restraint.
I am on good terms with the SoS, being told and i quote 'you're the one cool sentinel, all the others float around and beam everything', now as much as it is nice to hear this, it is slightly disheartening to hear that people are getting PK'ed because a person has the ability to do so and the complete lack of restraint, i follow the rules of forerunner strictly, but do not impeach them and abuse the load out i have.
Unfortunately i cannot say the same for ONI, i have HEARD that you are the main culprits responsible for PK's, just or unjust, and this is the ain reason why frankly a lot of sections despise you.
I will add that IC'ly, its a good idea to not piss off the SoS, HoJ or factors of the UNSC as they will generally be more un-cooperative towards you.
Conclusion: bottom line is you can take this or leave this, i don't really care which as ONI haven't (to my knowledge) fucked with forerunner when i'm online, but regardless its's not fun to hear ONI as the constant topic of 'i hate these people' or 'they are power abusing scumbags', its a simple fix to be honest, root out people who fester in it and dull down the Greyed PK's, and i know there are some.
P.S i have also been told from many sources that at some point you tried to PK a couple of sentinels with EMP's?, i mean if you did then IC'ly you'd be S2K target for Forerunner hence-forth, but if these allegations are false i see no reason to dislike you.
P.P.S
i have zero reason to have a slight against you, and from what i've seen you appear to be an alright person, but i'm being honest when i say you get a lot of flak thrown your way, this is just an analysis of what i've heard, now yes it may seem and is bias, because a large quota was a lot of hate directed your way, so.....i mean, something is wrong but its not my place to judge you for something i was not part of and may or may not be true.
Good Evening Mr. ReinsAs for the issues of PKs, I feel that the trouble arises when to employ a full PK or not.
Honestly, it goes like this.
If a UNSC soldier is talking to his friends or something, and has some issue with ONI and calls them "edgy," and Awful response is to have an ONI agent walk in the room, argue with said UNSC personnel, and end up giving him a Full PK[1]. this does not make the issue go away. this sows more distrust and actually Underlines the issue. You can not, as a player "talk to the manager about it" when it was the manager who gave the PK, leading to a very short discussion and potentially leading to even more PKs. I get secrets and all that, that sticks with RP. but if I were in the US military, or any other free-world Military... If I were to go in as a private and called some Military Intelligence officer/CIA spook, I know that I wont be dragged to some shed on base and shot in the temple.
I feel that a PK for something like the words a person says, ESPECIALLY A FULL PK, is just plain fail rp... and it doesnt sort the issue out, it gets the story of "oh hey, remember when ONI decided to PK someone for calling them edgy?" followed by the agreement that the supported offender was in the right. sure, Disrespect is bad, but to be so insulted by an opinion of one to warrant a PK, that just like whenever the SoS would walk into base and start killing soldiers for insulting them.
what kind of alliance/collaborative organization kills a guy for gossip.
As for other PKs, like entering restricted areas, I still believe a FULL PK is not too warranted here. demotion a rank or two like alex? sure. but why should he get any more leniency than a sergeant who came in during an event to help stop the BOMB that was going to kill the server.[2].
ONI just needs to lean more towards the "character name" PK, which means that the hard work someone stacked on to get a rank isnt lost, however all the information and data that the former character knew is lost in death, and the reasons for PKs and PK Areas in the new map need to just be isolated to their one area of the station.
If you want to stop the hate and the distrust directed at ONI, you just have to match punishment to the crime. a Private disrespects? give him a mop and bucket and tell him to clean the new SSR floor. have a player enter a completely blank room? memory wipe him and demote him. ONI has done it before when they didn't want to kill, and it's a much nicer alternative.... heck the UNSC NCOs will support them rather then say "oh great we lost another one" cause right now, to a lot of the lower ranks ONI just rules by fear. just create a system of checks an balances even. a PK authorization for a marine should go through marine commandment, especially on one of our NCOs. you wouldn't want a naval Commander (O-5) PKing one of your warrant officers for some small reason.[3]
The thought came to mind that I should write down here "I mean no disrespect," but it strikes me that this post shouldn't be seen as disrespectful, its just an opinion that PKs are too strict and too often. I felt it even while I was in ONI. If any offense is taken, it is exactly that... taken. I have not given it with the intent to anger. I write to address a problem.
[1]- The incident occured when a Kilo Private was at the HQ entrance, talking through his mic to his friends. as they were carrying on in bits of conversation, the topic of ONI came up, with one of them going on a charade of ONI being edgy for all the secret-back-door-shenanigans that is commonly associated with ONI. as everyone Im sure remembers, the walls of the old map were quite thin, and an ONI agent came above ground to them and was telling them to stop talking. they were arguing back saying it was OOC conversation, however as the rules state, all voice chat can be considered IC by staff. after jabs going back and forth, the predictable outcome came when said ONI agent removed the Private via PK and white-listed him to recruit. Said ONI agent was a member of the staff team and was therefore conducting this somewhat IC/somewhat OOC.
[2] Incident occurred awhile back, not under Zeus's rule. however the outcome would be predictably the same... and therefore I feel it should be mentioned to prevent it in the future. A bomb was placed inside the Beta facility by a GM while only an AFK freelancer was on. the bomb was nuclear and a threat to the base inhabitants, following RP scenario. An EOD trained sergeant and a few ODSTs entered Beta to defuse the bomb, the ODSTs protecting the sergeant from player event characters. An ONI Agent (no longer with organization) spawned in and interrupted by yelling at the members to exit. the EOD was in mid RP and told him to wait while he finished. after an argument, the Sergeant was pk'd for "trespassing in beta"
[3] Incidents for removal may sound silly, but in context may equate to the entrance of ONI, such as having an Agent enter the bridge and disrupt an Naval Commander (O-5) during an engagement or something or equal importance, which may warrant said commander to 'PK' the agent within his jurisdiction.
Good Evening Mr Wick
(OOC)
You are correct on a few factors here that I will address
1. Yes if you want to call it the “PK machine” then I guess that is what I am labeled as then go ahead. As stated before these so called labels will not stop personnel that have plagued this server as minges to continue to do what they do best and that is cause problems for the server. Me personally I don’t tolerate such actions whether they are in my organization or around me. So I follow the rules to a fault, and if think that I don’t. My Internal Affairs Staff is well informed on the rules and with that they hold me to that same standard in what we call a “Checks and Balance System”. No one in ONI has Ultimate Power but we all watch each other’s back to keep each other straight.
2. I personally take responsibility for each and every one of my Staffs actions, if you don’t think that is true then talk to my Command staff and ask them. As a leader that is your responsibility, everyone that falls under your title you have to answer for. Unfortunately that is not the case for some organization in where “We” let bad apples run around and infest our organization. Personally I chose to carve them out and cast them aside. What everyone else does with there organization is on them Mr Wick, but when you make a statement such as “Certain ONI members swing their dicks about and run amok without a stopper” id advise you to not just point a finger at one organization and turn your eye too all organization. Cause that problem resides in every last one and is starting to become a problem.
3. You do bring up some interesting point Mr Wick, unfortunately a lot of what you stated as you said is “things you heard” not things that you witnessed. This falls back to my previous statement that I made to Mr Ponk. Personnel not obtaining the full details of the matter at hand. I think that it is valiant that you are bring a lot of these thing to light but Mr Wick if this are not things that you witness then you are playing dangerously close to that field sir. You and I have had neutral relations in the past I implore you sir to speak about your accounts and what you have witness not the statements of other people sir. Cause as you said in your statement there is a lot of Hate towards me, but that will not stop be from doing my job
I hope this addresses you Statements
Office of Naval Intelligence
Director
E146 Zeus
Good Evening Mr.WickZeus
while some of what you have said has answered some issues there is still more that has been left to the dust so to speak, most likely unintentionally so here is what i question:
1. Zeus: Yes if you want to call it the “PK machine” then I guess that is what I am labeled as then go ahead.
2. John wick(prior to response): The most common slanders and associations with you are as follows: 1. Zeus is a PK machine
1. now i'd just like to point out that im not labelling you as a "PK Machine", i'm merely relaying what i have heard from others, so please do not mix what other people say about other personnel with what i say.
going back to what you said in point one, you stated "So I follow the rules to a fault", now while i'm sure this is the case, as i frankly wouldn't see it possible for you to have reached the rank of Director if you didn't follow the rules in the eyes of your peers, now while it is good that you do it, as you are leading by example, i must unfortunately say that while you lead by example i can't say for certain that your sub-ordinates follow your example, now an instance of this was before you were director and when Delta was, a UNSC Private was moving with his squad outside the ONI line of PK, and was gunned down for no reason, as my freelancer i was a little miffed to see this but didn't follow it as it simply wasn't going to be followed up and at the end of the day, at that time in the server, there were a plethora of minges in many regiments and a concentration within ONI, in lieu of what i have said i can whole-heartedly say ONI is better than it was on that front, but i leave it as an example of one of the multitude of things ONI has done that has blackened its name over-time.
to wrap this up with my point, the ONI personnel was never punished for a false PK and got off scot-free.
2. with this i dont feel that it was answered to its full extent, i mean, look at the poll, you take responsibility for the actions of your staff as was stated, now the title of this thread is
"What is your overall opinion on Director Zeus' actions and leadership choices during his time as ONI?"
now looking at the poll, 59% now say they have an issue, now do i believe that all the accusations and claims directly correlate to you, of course not, but what i do think is that as you take responsibility for your staff's actions you also absolve them of their rightful blame to some extent, now while you may not like it, the statement;
“Certain ONI members swing their dicks about and run amok without a stopper”
This holds a firm ground when looking at the poll results and linking to what i have said, if no one had an issue with you or ONI then that statement would crumble under itself, and looking at the poll, you and I can both tell that this is case, also i NEVER accused ONI of being the only organisation that does this, every one does, to an extent, but as of current ONI is in the hot seat and are having their cards laid out, so i would implore you to not accuse me of not looking at organisations, rather i'd ask you to acknowledge the fact that there is an Issue or issues with ONI, clearly more prevalent than other regiments hence the amount of flak you guys get.
3. as for what i said in the last paragraph, i can pull accounts straight out of my head, instances petty and major, ooc and IC'ly, most before your time, i don't take detailed note's of an incidence, i just don't have the time, unless it directly involves me, so i would implore you to not just say i need details, because in a lot of cases the details are too small or too few to piece together a conclusive story.
ias for the issues with details look at the HoJ instances, there are clearly two opposing views, the HoJ accuse you and you deny it, i have no clue is right, and nor am i going to listen to either of you as what you both say conflicts with each other.
why do you say that JenkinsRip my comment
Good Evening Mr. JenkinsHmm I'll throw my thoughts into this! So if you may or may not know the O.N.I Wiki leaks was from none other then me! But I'll talk about that later
My opinion on Zeus. I Like him.
He has shown compassion and give on numerous occasions
One time when during an event where he was forced to kill Civs he made sure no one was in sight unlike an Orion.
Another point was before the leaks began when he came banging down on my door and gave me a chance to come out. But! One things to help O.N.I would be to be a little bit more transparent. If you would have told the Huragok what you had in mind he may have let you in.
I believe it is true that O.N.I leads by fear, but not by choice. We fear O.N.I for their power. But in end to help out with less fear O.N.I should be more transparent!